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I was woken up at 1:30 by an extremely loud domestic arguement across the hallway that lased until 2 pm. (again with the late-night waking up...*shudder*) At a couple of poits I was reaching for the phone to call the cops, since we don't have our security force for the building anymore...but the arguement,while *very* loud, didn't sound like it was violent--just heated. Real heated.

*rubs forehead and yawns*

Besides, if I popped my little head out the door I might have escalated the situation.

But I'm dropping off a note to my manager so A: I can register a complaint, and B: Try to get the lady some help if she needs it, because I'm worried. I'm not real good with people yelling, ask anyone who knows me.....

Date: 2002-11-11 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heartwork.livejournal.com
It's really, really good of you to care about the woman. A lot of people just ignore that kind of stuff because they don't want to get involved.

Someone used to call the cops on my parents once in a while, but for the most part, they just ignored it. :(

Re:

Date: 2002-11-11 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msfledermaus.livejournal.com
Yeah, that urge can be real tempting too...you don't want to be dragged into something you can't control if it goes bad...

But I've seen enough of the same ignoring of real problems while I was growing up to be unable to ignore it as an adult. the little kid I used to be simply will not allow it to happen. And my adult self agrees.

(((((((Voices)))))))

Date: 2002-11-11 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormy-brow.livejournal.com
Yeah, I never know how to react in those situations, either.

I always want to intervene, but, having enough experience with domestic abuse, I never want to get the abusee in even more trouble.

Frank hit my step-mom just one too many times, once, while she was on the phone with my aunt. My aunt heard it all, and called the cops. Diane, my step-mom, told Frank that she called the cops, and that's when he tried to kill her. Thank goodness my cousin was there. She picked up the phone and pretended to call the police and tell them not to come. Frank was so drunk that he bought it. Who needs Jerry Springer?

I've had similar experiences where I've sat by the phone, waiting to call the cops, when I hear loud arguments in hallways, or other apartments. Not fun.

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Date: 2002-11-11 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msfledermaus.livejournal.com
It's always so hard to know how extreme the fight is...is it worthy of 911? Is it worse than anyone knows? Is it just stupid people being stupid to each other? Does this make it any better?

I'm so tired.:(
And if it happens again tonight, at least I have a number to call.

Date: 2002-11-11 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phil99.livejournal.com
I'm one of those who would err on the side of caution about calling/intervening. Not that I don't care, you understand. I know first hand how damn annoying it is to have someone arguing in the next room.

Is this the first time it's happened? Do you know for a fact it was girlf/boyf (husb/wife) and not mother/son? Would it make a difference if you knew it was parents and kids? What if they'd been out drinking - you know what folk can be like when they've had a few.

Ick, I really should plan my mini-rants better - they always turn out so unstructured :)

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Date: 2002-11-11 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msfledermaus.livejournal.com
You know, I was thinking about what you've said, very carefully...and no, it wouldn't make a difference. It wouldn't matter if it was some other kind of relationship. And I know from past experience that people who've had a few get more violent, not less. It would make me call that much faster. I believe verbal abuse is unacceptable, no matter who it comes from.
(granted there are times this rule has to be broken--fighting for your life, extreme duress, etcetra...but it's not okay to have to live your life like that, no matter who's doing it.)

If it was just drunken giggling or music or tv, I'd just knock and ask them to keep it down. I've done it before. But this was definitely frightening.

Date: 2002-11-11 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redneckwitchboi.livejournal.com
ack! that's not the same woman who was yelling at the little kid at the elevator, was it?

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Date: 2002-11-11 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msfledermaus.livejournal.com
Turned out to be a different one..and there was *another* domestic thing going on on the 6th floor that same night, I'm told!!!

Ack ack ack ack ack!

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Date: 2002-11-11 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redneckwitchboi.livejournal.com
That's it. It's time for us to get these crackho skankies out of our building! This is getting ridiculous, between the gay brothel/crack house on the first floor and the rest of the lot that's moved in over the summer!

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Date: 2002-11-11 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msfledermaus.livejournal.com
Right!!! time for the Neigborhood Witch-Watch!!!
*cracks knuckles*

Maybe it's time and past time for a really BIG witch-jar? I can buy lots o' garlic!

You're a great person!

Date: 2002-11-11 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wakerife.livejournal.com
Sounds like a good plan -- be careful.

It is good of you to think of others -- it does make the world a better place! Loud voices make me nervous, too -- especially angry loud voices.

Re: You're a great person!

Date: 2002-11-11 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msfledermaus.livejournal.com
I think it's necessary to think of others. The world is in too much pain without me adding to it by ignoring problems right in front of me.

And yeah, angry loud voices tend to make me either cringe and just shut off, or go ballistic, depending on what prompted it. sometimes I've hidden, sometime's I've pinned someone to a wall and threatened to make them eat their own lungs once I'd ripped them out.
(this was someone who'd had a history of stalking me, and i was under extreme stress.)

I can't stand by. It's too scary. It's too wrong.

Date: 2002-11-11 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silentbob037.livejournal.com
It sounds like a good plan to start with. If the arguement had been violent in any way, then I think that you should have called. But, if it was just a vocal arguement, then giving the note to the manager I think is a good idea.

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Date: 2002-11-11 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msfledermaus.livejournal.com
It was vocal as far as I could hear--and hearing was not a problem...If I heard an actual fight I would have been on that phone in a blink, and then maybe out with a baseball bat along with my neighbors. (I know most of my neighbors on this floor, and most of them are okay. I'm positive they heard everything I did.)

I talked to the manager, and he checked it out and called me back. It was a verbal thing, but if I hear anything else I'm supposed to call him right away.

Meanwhile I'm watchful. I take stuff like that very seriously.

Date: 2002-11-12 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silentbob037.livejournal.com
And you definately should.

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